tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8988046816576439468.post6026479121696203219..comments2023-11-05T00:19:25.417-07:00Comments on Rifleman Savant: Hey, I got it...let's force everyone to vaccinate and we'll make [x] go away forever!Kevin Wilmethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18368887768008126052noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8988046816576439468.post-20056655896168564412012-09-16T15:57:14.035-07:002012-09-16T15:57:14.035-07:00Wow, ML, thanks for your thoughts here. A lot of ...Wow, ML, thanks for your thoughts here. A lot of what you say here has been just exactly what Cathy has turned up in her research, and it's somewhat comforting to see that the philosophy we've been applying may be a sound one. (both our girls have had very few vaccinations, each carefully considered, and - touch wood - both have been exceedingly healthy so far. A minor cold or two for each girl, and S will be four in December and C just turned one. May it ever be so!)Kevin Wilmethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18368887768008126052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8988046816576439468.post-5586491368095123172012-09-15T10:43:14.098-07:002012-09-15T10:43:14.098-07:00There are many components of that problem, and ear...There are many components of that problem, and early infant immunization injections may very well be a big part of it. Much more study - of the independent and honest sort - needs to be done in this area, but there is a great deal of empirical evidence to support it even now.<br /><br />For example... I had all of the usual childhood diseases with zero adverse consequences. I actually had whooping cough at the age of 3. A subsequent inner ear infection caused cochlear damage, unfortunately, but there was (and still is) no "vaccine" for that particular infection. I didn't have any "shots" until I was about 6 years old, and only the smallpox and polio vaccine then. <br /><br />This was in 1949, and there were no antibiotics available either, so they could only treat symptoms and pray my immune system would take care of it. <br /><br />I am 66 years old now, and very rarely get infections of any kind -only a few in my lifetime. I don't have "colds" and have NEVER had the flu. My immune system is very strong and I think that is at least partly because it was never damaged when I was an infant.<br /><br />My sons never got early vaccines either, and they are extremely healthy.<br /><br />Their children, however, got the full range of "shots" from birth on, and they are sick all the time. They have one "cold" or "flu" after another, multiple allergies and related immune system problems. <br /><br />So, an easy question to ask is: are the young children today generally more or less WELL than those in previous generations? Do they have more infections, cancer, allergies, asthma, colds, etc.? The answer is obvious. <br /><br />Yes, we've all heard of the hundreds or even thousands affected by polio or whooping cough in previous generations, but how do the numbers stack up against the millions who have intractable allergies, a cold or flu constantly? How do the numbers of the historical few who suffered serious adverse response to measles, mumps, etc. compare to the growing ill health of masses of people now?<br /><br />I wonder...MamaLibertyhttp://www.thepriceofliberty.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8988046816576439468.post-8712919631928231612012-09-15T10:42:41.550-07:002012-09-15T10:42:41.550-07:00Several thoughts here... from a retired RN who spe...Several thoughts here... from a retired RN who spent quite a bit of time involved in pharmaceutical research.<br /><br />You are correct about the "settled science" thing. Many vaccines that were originally touted as effective and safe turned out to be no such thing. The many types of polio vaccine is a good place to start a study on that. <br /><br />The "flu" vaccine is probably the best documented failure of vaccine theory. It is also one of the most mandated, aside from childhood stuff. And the well proven fact that it is not at all effective in preventing or reducing the symptoms of the flu has been completely ignored by all of the entities who mandate it, year after year!! And, of course, the "flu" bugs are the classic example of nature giving the middle finger to the entire vaccine industry. :)<br /><br />There is also quite a bit of historical evidence that strongly suggests smallpox and polio "epidemics" were vastly diminished in distribution and intensity well before any sort of vaccine was produced or generally disseminated. Anyone who is interested in this idea can do a search on it, obviously. The general concensus is that improved nutrition, hygiene and living conditions were the greatest contributors to that and the fact that most of these endemic diseases now occur in the most primitive and economically depressed populations gives great weight to that contention. <br /><br />Childhood, especially infant, vaccination is an especially troubled area of this controversy. That's because the entire premise of vaccination rests on the idea that it stimulates the immune system to resist or destroy the invading organisms. There is no other mechanism of action for a vaccine.<br /><br />Unfortunately... The infant has no appreciable immune system until he or she is about a year old! Vaccines given to babies do not achieve their supposed purpose then, and there is a great deal of evidence to support the growing contention that it actually can damage the subsequent development of their immune system.<br /><br />Second, and quite probably related, our modern lifestyle does not always lend itself to the development of strong immune systems - so children develop whatever immunity they may get at a later age too! Nice vicious cycle.<br /><br />(too long, continued next frame)MamaLibertyhttp://www.thepriceofliberty.orgnoreply@blogger.com